Two Ordinary Cops

Episode 108 – “Jobs On”: Full Moon Madness, Dog Squad Yarns & Croc Country (Q&A)

We’re back answering your questions — from joining the AFP and life in the dog squad, to why bush policing can shape you into a better cop.
We share stories about working with police dogs, the reality of remote Territory jobs, and how body-worn cameras could save huge time on statements. Then we tackle the big one: does a full moon really send people wild? Let’s just say… there’s a reason cops watch the sky.
We also head into croc country, talking Cahill’s Crossing, remote dangers, and the kind of policing you only see in the Top End — before finishing with a few laughs and cartons owed.
Real stories, real policing, and plenty of Territory chaos.

Episode 107 – Australasian Games on the Gold Coast - Mates, Medals & Mayhem (with Rebecca Dale)

In this episode, we’re joined by Rebecca Dale, Queensland Police veteran and Games Manager for the Australasian Police & Emergency Services Games, to talk about what the Games are really about — connection, camaraderie, and catching up with the people who just get it.
From cops, ambos and fireies reconnecting years after working side-by-side, to mixed teams, unexpected friendships and plenty of laughs along the way, this isn’t just a sporting event — it’s a frontline reunion. Rebecca shares how the Games bring together thousands of emergency service workers across Australasia, why networking off the job matters just as much as teamwork on it, and how shared experiences create bonds that last a lifetime.
There’s talk of unlikely sports, legendary banter, beer gardens, and why coming together for something positive hits differently for people who usually meet at the worst moments. It’s a high-energy, feel-good chat about mateship, movement, and why the Australasian Games are one of the best weeks on the calendar.

Episode 106 – True Story That One - Professionalism Behind Statements That Hold Up

After missing their first deadline in 105 episodes — thanks to a 250kg heifer flattening Damo’s wife — the Two Ordinary Cops are back on the mic.
In this episode, Schultzy and Damo dive deep into one of the most fundamental — yet often underestimated — parts of policing: taking a proper statement.
Sparked by Schultzy reviewing a poorly constructed statement in the Lockie Jones investigation, the boys unpack why statements are often the difference between justice and a case falling apart. They break down key techniques like TEDS and ADVOCATE, explain how to avoid contaminating witnesses, and why open-ended questioning matters so much in court.
From handwritten notebooks to audio, video, and body-worn cameras, they also reflect on how statement taking has evolved — and why modern recording methods can be a game changer for both victims and police.
With real stories from the job, practical lessons for current serving members, and their trademark humour along the way, this is a must-listen for anyone who wants to understand how cases are really built from the ground up.

Episode 105 – Back for 2026 - Feedback, Reflections, and What’s Next

After a disrupted start to the year, Schultzy and Damo reunite to reset and kick off 2026.
This episode is driven by listener feedback following recent powerful episodes, particularly the stories shared by Kath and Susie. The boys reflect on why those conversations mattered, how they humanised policing, and the impact they’ve had across Australia and New Zealand.
They also share honest reflections on the realities of modern policing, the challenges faced on the ground, and the disconnect that can exist between frontline experience and public commentary.
A grounded return episode focused on reflection, connection, and what’s ahead for Two Ordinary Cops in 2026.

Episode 104 – Schultzy Solo - Red Flags, Responsibility, and for Lockie Jones

In this episode, Schultzy flies solo while Damo takes some time out for family, and he dives into something deeply important. A huge thank you goes to Melanie Reid and Bonnie Sumner, whose powerful work on The Boy in the Water series helped bring this case, and its serious concerns, into the light and kept it in the public conversation.
While visiting New Zealand, Schultzy travelled to Gore to walk the ground, speak with those involved, and take a closer look into the heartbreaking case of three-year-old Lockie Jones, whose death in the Gore oxidation ponds has left more questions than answers.
From investigative red flags, unanswered questions, policing standards, hierarchy-driven decisions, and the duty to properly investigate — Schultzy talks openly and honestly about why this matters, why impartial policing is essential, and why Lockie, his family, and the community deserve clarity and truth.
This episode isn’t about politics. It’s about responsibility, good policing, and a little boy who loved cops.It’s about making sure the job is done properly — and doing it for Lockie Jones.

Episode 103 – A Christmas Cheers, A Quick Wrap, and What’s Coming Next

In this shorter-than-usual Boxing Day catch-up, the Two Ordinary Cops jump on quickly to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a safe New Year. With family time taking priority over the holidays—and Schultzy heading over to New Zealand to spend time with loved ones—recording time has been tight, so this one is brief but heartfelt.
Schultzy also shares that his NZ trip isn’t just about family; he’ll be digging deeper into The Boy in the Water podcast and the death of 3-year-old Lachie Jones, who was found in the Gore sewerage ponds. From a policing perspective, he’ll be looking closely at aspects of the case that don’t seem to fit the accepted narrative—while making it clear nothing will be speculated on without proper evidence.
The boys reflect on a massive year that included powerful guests, emotional stories, laughs, live shows, and incredible listener support. They promise more conversations, more honesty, more humour, and more important voices in 2026—plus plans for another live show and a Christchurch catch-up for Kiwi cops and supporters.
A quick sign-off, a Christmas cheers, and a reminder: look after yourselves, look after each other, and we’ll see you in the New Year.

Episode 102 – Bondi: Condolences, Courage, and the Responders Who Ran Toward the Chaos

This week is another heavy one. In the wake of the Bondi tragedy, we pause to pay our respects to the victims and their families, and to acknowledge the first responders and everyday civilians who ran toward danger when most people were rightly running away.
We don’t pretend to have all the facts — that’s what investigations and coronial processes are for — but we do talk through what these moments feel like on the ground: the radio traffic, the confusion, the fear, the split-second decisions, and the leadership that has to cut through chaos when lives are on the line. We also unpack the reality of mass-casualty response, why armchair criticism misses the point, and why the human courage shown that day matters.
It’s a respectful, honest discussion from two ex-coppers who’ve been to critical incidents — and who never forget the cost paid by victims, families, and the responders who carry it long after the scene is cleared.

Episode 101 - In Remembrance of Brett Forte – Part 4 - A Wife, A Copper, and the Day Everything Changed

In this deeply personal episode, Brett’s wife, Senior Constable Susan Forte, shares what it’s like to hear your husband’s final moments over the police radio and live through the week that followed. From the frantic drive to the scene, to sitting in the paddock as she’s told Brett is gone, to a funeral watched by thousands in blue, Susan opens a raw window into grief, love, and the reality that every cop’s family lives with – it can happen to you.

Episode 100 – In Remembrance of Brett Forte – Part Three: When Truth Challenges Narrative and Policing Must Improve

In Part Three of our In Remembrance of Brett Forte series, Cath Nielsen takes us inside the coronial inquest and the fight for truth that followed Brett’s death.
Cath reveals what happens when you challenge the accepted narrative from inside the job — how asking questions can lead to isolation, retaliation, and personal attacks. She outlines the missed intelligence, cultural issues, and leadership failures exposed through the inquest, and the heavy personal toll of speaking up.
We also look at what real accountability means in policing, the key reforms that were introduced after the findings, and why owning mistakes is essential if future lives are to be protected.
This episode is about truth over comfort, courage over silence, and the hard path to building a better police force.

Episode 99 – In Remembrance of Brett Forte – Part Two: Cath Nielsen on the Days After the Ambush

In Part Two of our In Remembrance of Brett Forte series, Cath Nielsen takes us through the immediate aftermath of the ambush — the shock, the confusion, and the heavy days that followed Brett’s death.
Cath shares what it was like going home in the early hours still covered in Brett’s blood, breaking the news to her family, and feeling the weight of a community grieving beside her. She talks about the Tactical Crime Squad office becoming a safe place, the moment Brett’s mates broke down, and meeting the Fort family for the first time in the middle of heartbreak.
We also explore the emotional toll of Brett’s funeral, a later pursuit that triggered her trauma, and the unspoken impact on partners, families, and frontline officers. Cath reflects on CERT’s bravery, the support of the Blue Family, and why every cop must take ownership of their mental health.
This episode is about the humans behind the headlines — and the reality of surviving what no one prepares you for.